Pastor Jon Robinson is pastor of St. Peter’s African Methodist Episcopal Church in Minneapolis, MN. This bonus episode features the full-length interview with Pastor Robinson about his leadership in the midst of a pandemic, and in the immediate aftermath of George Floyd’s murder on May 25th, 2020--fewer than five blocks from the location of St. Peter’s. In this full-length interview hosts Sushama Austin-Connor and Abigail Visco Rusert explore themes of vocation, racial justice, ministry with youth, and resilience with Pastor Robinson. Portions of this interview were first shared in the episode entitled “Protest and Pastoral Identity.” This episode is produced by Garrett Mostowski.